July 20, 2008
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The moon shall turn to blood, Endtime Biblical Prophecy fullfilled by Red Moon.
I saw a red moon last night on 7-19-08 What do you think, is end time prophecy being fullfilled in our time?
Find out more about the red moon we had in February here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080211133105.htm
Revelation 6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Comments (22)
:yes: The end is near, we better get busy cause there simply can’t be much time left.
Oh, things are rapidly moving towards the end times…..that I am sure of. (Could I possibly ask that you use a larger font…..my eye sight aint as good as it used to be….thanks)
the Moon shall turn to blood. Could be but I believe this occures during the tribulation which I do not think we are yet in. Now as far as the signs of the times you will get no argument from me.
@New1E13_15 - It fits perfectly if you dont believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. What if we are in the tribulation like the Jews were in Egypt when God brought the plagues upon the egyptians? Is the church ready for that?
@derekwilson24 - That is true. I believe in a mid trib rapture myself which does not negate what you are saying but I don’t think we are in the final seven year period in which I this will happen. my reasons are
1. The temple is not rebuilt
2.We are not yet ” hated of all nations though we are getting close
3. Wars and rumors of war floods and earthquakes that is only the birth pains. The kind of betrayal by brothers and sistersbetraying unto death is not that common yet. Though Love growing cold and other warning signs are certainly picking up.
4.We are not seeing devastation near that described which these beasts will bring.
5. You might say we are in the first half of the trib but I have seen no major event, doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, which would signify this beggining of the final seven year period.
@New1E13_15 - Actually the temple has been rebuilt and then destroyed twice historically. http://bibleprobe.com/rebuildingthetemple.htm And there is talk of building a third http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1214726180915 What if the “hated of all nations” or “Preech the gospel to every nation” was referring to the Jews and early christians and the kingdoms that existed at Jesus and the disciples time or before human migration? It could be looked at from different veiwpoints that is all I am saying. Earthquakes are happening around the world all the time. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/ We are still fighting in Iraq. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War What about the Tsunami a year or so ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake and the typhoon in Taiwan http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-07/21/content_6862189.htm , or the hurricanes. New Orleans was practically wiped off the map. http://www.katrinadestruction.com/ Tornados have been worse this year in the Midwest US and arkansas than any year prior. http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/02/06/tornadoes/index.html Floods http://ks.water.usgs.gov/Kansas/pubs/fact-sheets/fs.024-00.html and Droughts http://mediaethiopia.com/foodsecurity/return_of_drought.htm, I dont know where you live, but the west coast of the US might be out of forest and National Parkland due to wildfires in the near future. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gwSSrT7-LciDlr1tYmyE9e19oX9QD920NNA00
Sorry I am not savvy enough to make those links shorter, but I just hope you have time to look at each link and see what I am saying. It could be looked at like we are pretty close. The point in Matthew 24 is to be ready at all times right?
@derekwilson24 - First off Amen on the bing ready at all times. As far as the temple thanks for pointing that out I was of course referring to the fact that it had to be built again in order for several key prophetic events to happen. I will try and look at the links but it will take a while. Destruction yes I agree signs of the times, but again not proportional to the final catastrophes. To say that these things point to his coming is good, to say or intimate that we are facing the tribulation now is I believe unwise as when and if proved wrong it gives naysayers ammunition to try and discredit believers.
Wow, I was so pleased to see you leave a message. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I NOW believe we are in the beginning of the Tribualtion. I cannot prove it, but that is what I feel. I am trying to be open to scripture and the Spirit’s leading. I pre-trib rapture no longer makes any sense to me.
Very nice seeing you.
Blessings
frank
Israel had a red moon years ago. I suspect that will be a worldwide situation. We are just to keep busy doing His work and waiting for Jesus to come and snatch us away. I think that many things are happening now that Jesus predicted would happen at the end times, and that we are close. Pastor Don also thinks so, as evidenced by his sermon which I posted a bit ago. But we just keep our eyes on Him.
Heather
Another point, people are being Martyred everyday all over the world and slain for the sake of the gospel and for their testimony. Visit The Voice of the Martyrs website @ http://www.persecution.com or p://www.prisoneralert.com/vompw_persecution.htm to read about Modern Martyrs and all the countries where the gopel is banned.
I would just like to add that many “key prophecies” have already been fulfilled. I don’t believe that the temple EVER has to be rebuilt. An antichrist already called himself god and created the “abomination of desolation” in the temple when he slaughtered a pig on the sacred alter.
Although I believe it is possible for these things to happen AGAIN, I by no means think it is necessary for Jesus’ return. I believe His return is immenant, regardless of any “rapture” theory.
@New1E13_15 - On the love :heartbeat: of many turning cold, here in America nobody hardly ever stops to help someone broke down on the side of the road anymore. Most people if a stranger would come to the door asking for a warm meal or place to stay for the night would turn them away (They could be an axe murderer or something for heaven sake!). Our laws make it impossible for a homeless person to get help. First of all they have to have an address to get food stamps or handouts from the local food pantry, they cant get a job, open a bank account exct exct. Someone who is a convicted felon like a Sexual Offender, Murderer, exct cannot find work, get help, and most of the time are shunned by their communities left homeless and helpless. That is not very loving.
Matthew 25:32-46 Says ”and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
And if you have ever read about the American Civil war, you will see that Brother absolutely did fight against brother in that war.
@NVRSAD_DAY - :wave: Yes. It has been a long time. Welcome back we missed you.
The Bible clearly teaches the doctrine of immanency. That is that Christ’s return is immanent and can happen at any moment, and no man knows that time. If the Tribulation comes before that time, then we have all sorts of things to see that lead up to his return and rapture of the church. So we had better make sure out lamps are full of oil, because we never know when He will return and take us as His bride. But saying that specific events happening now are part of the tribulation is wrong because 1) the church has not been raptured yet, and 2) Israel has not signed the pact with the Antichrist (the official start of the tribulation). The tribulation is referred to in Daniel 9 as the 70th week, the last week, and in the passage God’s chosen people Israel and the holy city of Jerusalem are the only ones mentioned. This fits in with a pre-tribulation rapture because the point of the last week is the redemption of Israel (talked about in Romans 11). The church is never mentioned in relation to the Tribulation, and that is because the church is gone. The purpose of the rapture is to remove the church so that God can deal with His people and redeem them after all these years of their rejection of Jesus.
It really is an incredible story
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@lumpyoatmeal14 - Rapture, interesting word, it doesn’t exist in the scripture. The idea of a “Secret Rapture” is even worse, the Bible clearly teaches that when we are “caught up” with him in the air, the trump will sound and everyone will hear the trump and see him. It is clear that whenever Jesus takes his own up in the air, that it will not be a mystery to those left on earth, like in the popular FICTION “Left Behind” books try to teach us.
@lumpyoatmeal14 - I am not knocking your theology at all. I used to believe exactly what you believe, and I still believe that Jesus is coming back and we need to be ready at all times. The only thing I believe different now is that it may not be in a secret snatching away (That same scripure says that when the trumpet sounds every eye shall see him on that day), before all these bad things happen. I mean God left his people in Egypt when the plagues came upon the Egyptians, but God said no plague shall come nigh thy dwelling and it didnt.
Who does this verse apply if not Christians during the tribulation? In Rev scripture above ^
I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held
@derekwilson24 -
Well that passage seems clearly to me to be talking about saved people, but not “the church.” The Tribulation is about bringing God’s people back to him (and many also join in), not the church.
@lumpyoatmeal14 - Ok, you think that the Jews are the ones being slain in that scripture. Is it possible that the Holocaust fullfilled that? How about the destruction of the Jewish Temple in 70AD by the Romans? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem Matthew 24 said that One would be grinding at the mill, and the other left. Could that and the Abomination of Desolation talked about in Daniel have been fullfilled by the Romans http://www.chabad.org/holidays/3weeks/history/article_cdo/aid/144567/jewish/History.htm
What about the fact that many Jews since the fall of the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain, or the Berlin wall have been returning to Israel. In fact Jews have been returning to Israel from all over the world and actually many Jews are being saved today.
I am not a theology expert, or a professor of prophecy, I just think that it could be possible that there will not be a secret snatching away and that there might not have to be ABC&D fullfilled before Jesus comes back. It could be looked at historically that up to 75% of the prophectic revelation in the Bible has already been fullfilled. I could be wrong, but I am ready.
@New1E13_15 -
The Day and Hour Unknown
[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
If there was a pre-tribulation you would be able to count down when he would be coming. The bible tells of all the things that will happen. Once world peace started we could count down 3 1/2 years from that point. No one knows the hour. Calls for pre-tribulation!
@derekwilson24 -
The Day and Hour Unknown 32″No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on guard! Be alert[a]! You do not know when that time will come.
Hey Derek! I just happened to yesterday (I love how the Lord works
) listen to a sermon that applied directly to this conversation. It is about Matthew 24 and I love this preacher’s perspective on it. I think it would greatly interest you and your wife, at least as a different perspective. I uploaded it to the following web address. It’s not a long sermon, so listen to it when you have a chance and let me know what you think!
http://cid-1990e60718784d76.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Sermon%20for%20Derek
@lumpyoatmeal14 - It was interesting, but I still disagree that there will be any kind of secret rapture. There will be a second coming, with the son of man coming in the clouds with power and great glory, with the trump of God sounding and every eye will see him on that day. Thank you for sharing that.
Now, when you get a chance please read this:
http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/transcripts/eschatology/abom_des.htm